Albert Fox Cahn from STOP joined Mark Hurst this week on https://techtonic.fm to discuss **vaccine apps vs. CDC cards** & Apple's iPhone scans. [Very interesting listen:](https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/106663) Player: https://wfmu.org/archiveplayer/?show=106663&archive=205692&starttime=

Albert Fox Cahn from STOP joined Mark Hurst this week on https://techtonic.fm to discuss vaccine apps vs. CDC cards & Apple's iPhone scans.